Episode 109

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3rd Jan 2025

Creatives WithAI: Curiosity and Creativity: A year in review with David and Lena

In this engaging episode of Creatives WithAI, host Lena Robinson reconnects with the podcast's former host, David Brown, for a candid conversation reflecting on 2024. Together, they dive into the standout moments of the year, share their perspectives on the evolving intersection of AI and creativity, and explore the themes shaping the future of creative industries.

David reminisces about his serendipitous interview with Daniel Bedingfield, highlighting the artist's experimental use of AI to fuse musical genres. Lena recalls her memorable studio session with Tom Morley, a multidisciplinary creative embracing AI across art, music, and film. Their conversation touches on themes of curiosity, adaptability, and the fine line between fear and innovation.

As they look ahead to 2025, Lena and David discuss the importance of fostering dialogue with advocates and skeptics of AI. They also hint at exciting plans for live shows and more diverse voices in the creative industries in 2025. Their closing message? Stay curious and embrace the unknown.

Top 20 Takeaways

  • AI is a tool for experimentation, not a replacement for creativity.
  • Serendipity plays a key role in creating meaningful connections.
  • Staying ready and proactive can open doors to unexpected opportunities.
  • Artists like Tom Morley and Daniel Bedingfield showcase AI’s versatility in art, music, and film.
  • The creative community remains divided on AI, particularly in music and film.
  • Legal frameworks for compensating artists in AI-generated works are evolving.
  • Fear often drives resistance to AI adoption in the creative industries.
  • Curiosity is a common thread amongst successful creatives.
  • AI can complement human creativity by expanding possibilities.
  • Younger generations are rethinking traditional career paths due to AI's impact.
  • Apprenticeships and hands-on learning are gaining popularity over formal degrees.
  • Live events and interactive formats can enhance community engagement.
  • Future AI tools will continue to disrupt and redefine creative workflows.
  • Cross-industry collaboration is essential.
  • Hosting skeptics on AI could lead to meaningful debates and deeper understanding.
  • Tools like HeyGen and 11Labs demonstrate AI's potential in content localisation.
  • Human creativity thrives on unpredictability and breaking conventional boundaries.
  • Podcasts can challenge societal fears and misconceptions about technology.
  • Sharing experiences and experiments with AI fosters community learning.
  • Staying curious and experimenting with new tools is crucial for growth.

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Thanks for listening, and stay curious!

//Lena & Dave

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About the Podcast

Humans WithAI™
Humans WithAI is a podcast about how artificial intelligence is changing people’s work, lives and sense of what comes next.
Hosted by David Brown, the show features honest conversations about the human impact of AI. What started as Creatives WithAI in 2023 has evolved into a broader look at how AI is reshaping careers, industries, identity and opportunity far beyond the creative world.
From founders and freelancers to educators, leaders and workers navigating change, Humans WithAI explores what happens when technology stops being abstract and starts affecting real life.

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David Brown

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A technology entrepreneur with over 25 years' experience in corporate enterprise, working with public sector organisations and startups in the technology, digital media, data analytics, and adtech industries. I am deeply passionate about transforming innovative technology into commercial opportunities, ensuring my customers succeed using innovative, data-driven decision-making tools.

I'm a keen believer that the best way to become successful is to help others be successful. Success is not a zero-sum game; I believe what goes around comes around.

I enjoy seeing success, whether it’s yours or mine, so send me a message if there's anything I can do to help you.

Lena Robinson

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Lena Robinson, the visionary founder behind The FTSQ Gallery and F.T.S.Q Consulting, hosts the Creatives WithAI podcast.

With over 35 years of experience in the creative industry, Lena is a trailblazer who has always been at the forefront of blending art, technology, and purpose. As an artist and photographer, Lena's passion for pushing creative boundaries is evident in everything she does.

Lena established The FTSQ Gallery as a space where fine art meets innovation, including championing artists who dare to explore the intersection of creativity and AI. Lena's belief in the transformative power of art and technology is not just intriguing, but also a driving force behind her work. She revitalises brands, clarifies business visions, and fosters community building with a strong emphasis on ethical practices and non-conformist thinking.

Join Lena on Creatives WithAI as she dives into thought-provoking conversations that explore the cutting edge of creativity, technology, and bold ideas shaping the future.

Joanna (Jo) Shilton

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As the host of 'Women With AI', Jo provides a platform for women to share their stories, insights, and expertise while also engaging listeners in conversations about the impact of AI on gender equality and representation.

With a genuine curiosity for the possibilities of AI, Jo invites listeners to join her on a journey of exploration and discovery as, together, they navigate the complex landscape of artificial intelligence and celebrate the contributions of women in shaping its future.

Iyabo Oba

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Iyabo is the host of Relationships WithAI, a podcast that explores how artificial intelligence is transforming human connections, from work and romance to family and society.

With over 15 years of experience in business development across the non-profit, corporate, and public sectors, Iyabo has led strategic partnerships, content creation, and digital campaigns that drive real impact. Passionate about fostering authentic relationships, she has worked closely with diverse communities to create meaningful engagement and conversation.

Fascinated by the intersection of technology and human interaction, Iyabo is on a mission to uncover how AI is shaping the way we connect. Through Relationships WithAI, she creates a space for thought leaders and disruptors to share their insights, experiences, and predictions about the future of AI and its impact on relationships, society, and beyond.

If you’re curious about AI’s role in our lives, this podcast is for you. Join Iyabo as she sits down with some of the brightest minds in the field to explore the evolving relationship between AI and humanity.